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These developments could herald a shift from America’s vaunted #FreeMarket system to one that resembles, at least in some corners, a form of #state-managed #capitalism more frequently seen in #Europe &, to a different degree, #China & #Russia, say lawyers, bankers & academics steeped in the history of #HostileTakeovers & international #business
#Trump #economy #law #fascism #authoritarianism #dictatorship #autocracy #tyranny
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/08/23/business/trump-intel-us-steel-nvidia.html?smid=nytcore-ios-share&referringSource=articleShare
@Nonilex If the US government can nationalize defense contractors it can nationalize health insurance companies.
The first 100% effective HIV prevention drug is approved and going global
It's royalty free and there's already six, generic manufacturers lined up.
https://newatlas.com/infectious-diseases/hiv-prevention-fda-lenacapavir/
You know how there’s a rule that in order to be a podcast it has to have an RSS feed…
What would be the equivalent statement about the web?
How can you tell of a document or app is “on the web?”
This is something I’d like to work out with people who understand, support and protect the web.
@davew Not the complete story, but I'd say deep links are an important factor. To take two big tech examples, I use the "web" version of Outlook (I prefer the UI to that of the Mac version), but am often annoyed that I can't create a link to a specific message. In contrast, I can very easily share a link to an individual item on Amazon. On that axis, Amazon is definitely on the web and Outlook isn't.
@davew If there's a reference to something that is also "on the web" there should be a clickable link to get there without using a search engine, otherwise it's simple "in the Internet".
@davew Technically, a podcast is nothing more than an mp3 of people talking for an hour.
RSS is just an XML blurb, served by a web URL that ends in .rss, which looks like a weird code if you use a browser to visit it. RSS readers know how to parse the XML, and present you with something more human readable. Usually podcasts in RSS documents are just a link from there. There's a lot of ways to parse and present it.
As for the web. If it loads in a browser on port 80 or 443, it's a webpage.
Thanks for all the responses!
The consensus: Something is on the web if it has a URL you can use to view it in a web browser.
But there's a more important (imho) question.
I elaborate on the this.how page.
https://this.how/web/what.opml#1756211321000
Your comments are welcome here, I will read them all.
@davew Thanks so much for this, Dave! I had an epiphany reading your post - there's a ton of stuff out there now which you can't access without passing through a turnstile of some sort. Not just Cloudflare Turnstile - maybe it's a cookie banner, Anubis bot check, login prompt, "age verification" check, formally attested browser/OS version etc. Perhaps there's an important distinction here? "Of the web" (or maybe "webbish"!) but not "on" the web.
@davew I would add that there is
* no blocks to public viewing, eg paywalls, ads required
* doesn’t _require_ a topic be split into multiple pages
my own opinion, i think that's a bit too specific.
can i have a private web?
i don't have any right now, but when i'm developing a product in beta, very often the docs will require a password.
it's still the web imho.
@davew True. I guess I’m railing against the bait and switch/desperate for ads sites. There is a need for income in the web, but I’d rather it was up front and honest. I’ll pay for access if I want, but don’t look like you’re free/public and then limit access.
Which, I guess, isn’t really part of the definition of an open web, more an ethical belief of mine.
@davew I have sometimes thought that “on” the web is unfortunate because it implies that the thing is sitting on the surface of some infrastructure. We should have started saying “in” the web instead. But it is probably too late to make that change now.
I guess I have sometimes used “web friendly” to convey the gist of what you are talking about, or even web-native. I have also sometimes invoked Tom Coates “Native to a Web of Data” talk when speaking about this
@davew Great post.
I've recently been thinking about [1][2][3][4] a related concept: what it means to be "part of the Web". That is: to be a participant in, not just a consumer, of Web content.
The answer might have varied over time. E.g. you might break it down generationally and find something like this -
Web 1.0: "I have a homepage."
Web 2.0: "I post on a social network."
Today: "I comment using an app."
That feels like quite a change in the level of effort required to consider oneself a member of a participatory Web. And I wonder what it means for the future.
[1] https://danq.me/part-of-or-connected-to
[2] https://danq.me/internet-servicesh-provider
[3] https://danq.me/the-rise-of-whatever
[4] https://danq.me/27029
thanks, i think it's important to figure this out now. i want to revitalize the web, but before doing that it would be helpful to know what the web actually is and isn't.
i'm not sure if the various versions of the web even make sense. i don't think the web is something that changes. it's that foundational.
@davew Oh, 100%. The only thing I hate more than calling "eras" of the Web 1.0 vs 2.0 is... well, whatever people mean this week when they say "Web 3.0". 😆
But I worry that the world is losing sight of the most-important thing the Web has: its "killer feature" - addressability. A URL points directly to a resource, so it can be hyperlinked and referenced, independent of its content-type (and indeed, with content negotiation, the content type and even language can be dynamic based on the request headers).
Even Gopher didn't (quite) get that right, with its URLs that specify the "type" of content, which makes them fragile.
@davew We keep having these trends of trying to kill URLs. E.g.:
1. In the 90s, even as the Web started to really take off, services like Compuserve continued to push "GO Words" and other centralised, controlled keyword systems of addressing.
2. In the 00s, as search finally got good, advertisements experimented with "search for [X]" rather than printing an address (which lead to the obvious Googlebombs and squatting, because of course it did).
3. At various times, browsers have experimented with (and in Safari's case, even pushed ahead with) efforts to conceal the power of the URL, cutting the visible part down just the domain name or even replacing it with the name from the (EV) SSL certificate.
4. And nowadays, people's business cards show e.g. a Facebook, X, or Instagram logo followed by the "keyword" that'll find their services on that platform. There IS a URL, but people don't see it anymore. It's Compuserve all over again.
i think we can make a twitter-like system that is the web.
just start by removing the limits, and develop software and iterate.
i'm building just that, using wordpress as the server for the content, because whatever you say about wordpress it is totally web. no limits that i can see, esp in comparison with other services that do similar things.
i'm tired of people reinventing stuff that works and leaving out so many features that matter.
@davew: whatever you say about wordpress it is totally web
Me: I made WordPress into a CMS for Gemini, Spartan, and Gopher ( https://github.com/Dan-Q/CapsulePress )
Rest of Internet: Shut up, Dan, you're drunk
I’m not following this. Can’t tell if you’re agreeing with what I said or..?
@davew Sorry! I agree entirely.
@davew DOIs are an example of deep linking working well. At least in the biomedical field where I work they're printed on all research journal articles. You can store just the ID internally, but they're trivial to turn into a URL that will take you to directly to a webpage for that article.
i had to look up "doi" -- which brings up two points.
1. in response to your post, i agree. there was a time when i wanted to build a site where each page had its own dns entry. that would make the text as mobile as dns allows -- which is very mobile.
2. i had to look it up because you couldn't link to it, because the medium we're using doesn't support links. *
* with the caveat i know some places do allow links, and masto passed them through, which is great.
The NYT reports today that members of the Department of Government Efficiency uploaded a copy of a crucial Social Security database in June to a vulnerable cloud server, putting the personal information of hundreds of millions of Americans at risk of being leaked or hacked, according to a whistle-blower complaint filed by the Social Security Administration’s chief data officer.
From the story:
"Mr. Borges did not indicate that the database had been breached or used inappropriately."
"But his disclosure stated that as of late June, “no verified audit or oversight mechanisms” existed to monitor what DOGE was using the data for or whether it was being shared outside the agency. That kind of oversight would typically be provided by the agency’s career information security professionals, Mr. Borges said in his account."
'And his complaint cites an official agency security assessment that described the project as “high risk” and that warned of “catastrophic impact” to Social Security beneficiaries and programs if the database were to be compromised."
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/08/26/us/politics/doge-social-security-data.html
@briankrebs we all knew this would happen at least a few times. avoiding accountability is job one for this administration. nobody with actual experience or subject matter expertise would have done anything like this on purpose.
unless it was intentional.
@briankrebs I love how they pointed out that it "did not indicate [it] had been breached" yeah no shit, they shoved it on an exposed server without logging, IDS, or data governance. I look forward them to also pointing out they did not detect any indicators of compromise or suspicious traffic.
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Do you ever think about how the fine for peeing in public is substantially more than the fine for dumping tonnes of CO₂ in public?
Look, we all know Fahrenheit is the most nonsensical and most arbitrary measurement in the US (sorry @caseyliss), but I would like to posit that American Wire Gauge gives it a run for its money.
What in the fuck is even happening here.
@thomholwerda I can’t even comment on AWG because you are patently wrong about Fahrenheit
@caseyliss That site doesn't render for me, much like AWG. 😄
(By the way, I assume your Mastodon client supports muting threads. If not, I'll edit the original and get your handle out. No need for you to get notification spammed about a silly jab.)
@thomholwerda Eh, it's fine. We get LITERALLY EVERY OTHER UNIT OF MEASURE wrong — as evidenced by AWG — so I can take my lumps.
FWIW:
@caseyliss @thomholwerda Ah yes. Because water freezing at 32 degrees and boiling at 212 degrees is not at all arbitrary and weird.
@woe2you @thomholwerda Ah, yes, because when I ask “how is the weather outside" I desire for the response to be "well, water thinks it's very cold”.
See also:
@caseyliss @woe2you @thomholwerda I prefer Celsius and Kelvin for various reasons, probably really just familiarity tbh, but this is a decent argument for F. I also learned imperial measurements in my previous engineering career and there are some actual good reasons for them which are kind of similar, ie they mean something on the scale of human experience. An inch or a foot: it's an order of magnitude that corresponds to the significant order of magnitude on the human body. You can ask whether the robber was closer to 5' or 6' and it makes sense; were they closer to 1 m or 2 m? everyone laughs at you for asking.
@bencourtice @woe2you @thomholwerda In my personal estimation, every imperial/American unit is trash except Fahrenheit. That's the only one we got right.
(And only for ambient air temperatures. For a car thermostat, for example, °C all day.)
@caseyliss @thomholwerda Yes, it's a sad fact that the rest of the world is completely unable to discuss the weather.
@woe2you @thomholwerda You're absolutely able to discuss what the water thinks about the weather, but not great at discussing what bodies think of it.
@caseyliss @woe2you Honestly, that's mostly just down to what you're used to. I live in the Arctic, so the 0°C point is incredibly important to me, and what -40° (we get that here), 10° or 30° feels like is just something you know, just like you do for F.
If F made intrinsically more sense for humans than C does, it wouldn't be so utterly bewildering to use for those of us growing up with C, and vice versa. Neither of the scales make intrinsic sense to humans, so given that, the scale based on reasonable observable phenomena that you encounter quite often (freezing/boiling water) makes more sense.
That's my take anyway. In the end it doesn't matter, as the two systems rarely interact.
@thomholwerda @woe2you It's pretty easy:
0°F: Really fuckin cold
100°F: Really fuckin hot
It's a percentage of hotness. Its purpose is literally to intrinsically make sense.
@caseyliss @woe2you Holy shit Fahrenheit is vibe temperatures.
That's the whole deal, isn't it? Y'all want a vibe, while I want a temperature.
@thomholwerda I wouldn't describe it that way, but, it's not an entirely unreasonable perspective.
You're shortchanging Fahrenheit by implying it isn't *actually* temperature. It is. And, in fact, the resolution is also far better than °C. I **never** see half-degrees in F, but I always do in C. Because C — for ambient air temps — is wrong and dumb.
@caseyliss @thomholwerda Also for measuring the temperature of a swimming pool. Although for that, half a degree of resolution can make a difference! For example, 82.5 vs 83.0 degF! Although for Celsius I would imagine that .1 degC would be an imperceptible difference, and .5 degC would be too big... yet another reason this guy likes F for measurements that affect human comfort, and Celsius/Kelvin for science.
@caseyliss @thomholwerda it’s not those of us who have grown up with Celsius struggle to communicate temperature with each other. It’s not an issue. We can handle decimals points just fine.
@caseyliss @thomholwerda I find it highly amusing Casey that you, an American, prefer Metric Weather!
@thomholwerda @caseyliss @woe2you humans by and large don't live in the arctic - doesn't make sense for units to be based on it
@jenzi @thomholwerda @woe2you This.
Also, while I concede that 32° does seem pretty fuckin arbitrary, it's hilarious to me how difficult it apparently is for °C to remember.
@caseyliss @woe2you @thomholwerda Celsius:
0° = water freezes.
100° = water boils.
This seems SO sensible compared to Fahrenheit, which pointlessly puts water freezing (32°) and boiling (212°) of water *exactly* 180° apart.
@sqwabb @woe2you @thomholwerda Why are you so obsessed with whether water is cold or not
@caseyliss @woe2you @thomholwerda Celsius usefully tells everyone at a glance when water will undergo phase changes - from a liquid to a solid and from a liquid to a gas. The former is the difference between rain and snow. Here in Vancouver, 2 cm of rain is nothing but 2 cm of snow is apocalyptic and calls for stocking up on coffee and biscotti!
@caseyliss @woe2you @thomholwerda if someone in Canada says the weather is below 0, we know to be careful about icy patches. For the rest, we were able to memorize what 25 or 15 feels like just like you were able to memorize what 70 or 85 feels like. SMH.
The only reason I use Fedora Server is because I like saying, "Oh you can just add that using the COCK PIT web UI"
The MIT research found that, of more than 300 organizations analyzed, 95% saw zero financial returns for their AI efforts, and even those which were actively using the technology had not seen major changes. https://www.semafor.com/article/08/22/2025/ai-fails-to-bring-businesses-returns-report-says
Turns out I still had the following in my translate script:
#!/bin/bash
Instead of:
#!/usr/local/bin/bash
Now it's working. What a rookie mistake. Thank you @jsph@mstdn.ca ;)
Anyone running #Qutebrowser on #OpenBSD and tried running the translate userscript ?
I get the following error when the script is executable and in the following location as the doc says.
~/.local/share/qutebrowser/userscripts/translate
The error:
15:27:34 ERROR: Userscript '/home/justine/.local/share/qutebrowser/userscripts/translate' failed to start: Child process set up failed: execve: No such file or directory
https://github.com/AckslD/Qute-Translate/blob/master/translate
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You follow an account because it looks interesting. After a few weeks, it turns out to be not that interesting to you. You unfollow that account and get your timeline back to its previous state.
No harm. No hate. No "hey, come check me back!".
#Fediverse Social Media at its best.
#3132 - Coastline Similarity
@xkcd Fully expected the reasons given by the instructor and the student to be reversed, but I guess Munroe's inner chaos goblin had the day off.
Since physicists know the Universe is expanding, this shows its true.
Like the Universe, the Earth is expanding along with it. Only its waistline runs down the center of the Atlantic. As the Earth gets bigger, South America and Africa is moving apart.
That also solves the world map issue Africa wants to fix, just tilt the world to were Africa is either on top or bottom :)
what’s the ifixit repairability score of a lobster? you need all these specialized tools just to get in there and you can’t put the lobster back together after
@samhenrigold seeing this question boosted by @iFixit without an honest answer by them really broke my little heart
@liaizon @samhenrigold After some testing, we've determined that lobsters are surprisingly easy to disassemble using standard tools (the Jimmy was especially handy here). However, the disassembly was entirely destructive, which means a zero in terms of repairability.
It's not all bad, though! Unlike traditional tech, lobsters take very little resources to manufacture and are completely biodegradable. This makes replacement an acceptable alternative to repair in this crustacean's case.
Let this sink in...
As of today, The Onion is now the 13th largest print newspaper in the United States, just between The Boston Globe and Chicago Tribune in print subscriber numbers, and growing fast.
A 1914 Gay-Ola Soda Advertisement.
https://www.bhamwiki.com/w/Gay-Ola
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#Soda #Advertisement #Retro #Vintage #softdrink
Today I heard the phrase, "GPT endpoint". Sad to report it didn't mean what I first thought.
Me reading some tech news: I don’t want 1TB storage of the size of a microSD card, I want affordable 50TB storage of the size and silence of a 2.5" SATA drive… 🙃
Meanwhile in Norway.... the taxation of the wealthy has become a key election issue, with the major parties responding to the 'exodus' of the mega rich (upset at a 1% wealth tax) over the last decade.
Even if the centre Left wins, it looks like the tax will be 'reviewed' at the very least.
Which once again poses the Q. of why the ultra-rich who would hardly notice a 1% levy on their wealth get so vexed about its imposition? A Q. of relevance well beyond Oslo.
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— "Can you believe how stupid and primitive the ancient Greeks were? When they didn't know something, they asked an oracle, and they believed whatever it said!"
— "That's nuts. Where was this oracle?"
— "No idea. Let's go ask ChatGPT."
In brazillian portuguese, LLM means "lero-lero machine" (bullshit machine) and I think that's beautiful
Neither ring moves(other than the rotation) or changes size in any way.
MIT Backs Away From Paper Claiming Scientists Make More Discoveries with AI. After a review process, MIT stated that it “has no confidence in the provenance, reliability or validity of the data and has no confidence in the veracity of the research contained in the paper.” https://gizmodo.com/mit-backs-away-from-paper-claiming-scientists-make-more-discoveries-with-ai-2000603790
@JenLucPiquant "The paper seemed to suggest that researchers were making many more discoveries when aided by AI, suggesting that there may be a boom in scientific breakthroughs on the horizon. Now there’s doubt "
My gosh, how can researcher be so gullible? I mean, even if the paper had not been fraudulent, the possibility of an artefact or statistic deviation was possible. Dreaming extraordinary claims after a single paper on such an issue is very concerning.
Even older news.
Three or so years ago, MIT sent out a request for comment on it's plans for the CS department to MIT/CS grads asking what they thought.
Too much AI stuff, I wrote. In particular, you really need a plan B for when the AI bubble bursts, since the intellectual foundations of the field have been lost.
They never wrote to me again.
See my comments in this blog thread for two blokes named David tag-teaming a naive scientist.
@JenLucPiquant
I love this term NOT: “backs away” in the headline “MIT Backs Away From Paper Claiming Scientists Make More Discoveries with AI”.
“Repudiates” could be clearer. 🙂
@JenLucPiquant junk science at MIT. I read it when it came out and was akin to a Harvard MBA business case story for introducing AI into companies in material science.
It's not really science, if the results are not reproducible.
AI hallucinates, changes its responses, and is based on ever-changing interpretations of source data.
@JenLucPiquant I used to follow MIT on the socials and received emails on the latest news. After getting AI hype after AI hype in most of their articles on AI. I stopped following and unsubscribed to all their newsletters.
@JenLucPiquant Oh, I'm sure they do indeed make more discoveries with AI, but those discoveries don't happen to be rooted in science, but rather bullshit.
I wonder if the federal patrols descending on DC will be including white-collar crime in their crackdown. You know, like pulling over fancy cars and auditing their taxes.
That could have a real impact.
@mattblaze @noplasticshower Perhaps New York could send its National Guard to do some law enforcement in the West Wing.
@gleick @mattblaze @noplasticshower
the NY AG have proven pretty good at dealing with organized crime in the past. i think they would do pretty well dealing with the disorganized crime family in the white house right how. ;)
When Australian artificial intelligence expert Dr Kobi Leins declined a medical specialist’s request to use AI transcription software during her child’s upcoming appointment, the practice told her [she] was "welcome to seek an alternative" provider.
[...]
It was a system whose privacy and security capabilities Leins had previously reviewed as part of her work in AI governance — and one she said she would not want her child’s data “anywhere near”.
https://ia.acs.org.au/article/2025/kobi-refused-a-doctors-ai-she-was-told-to-go-elsewhere.html
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Assessment/evaluation & much research are currently being replaced by AI so this makes complete sense.
@warandpeas
Human pupil: "But then why am I still here?"
Teacher: "Oh, you're right" (takes out a gun and shoots the kid in the head) "There."
This feels appropriate for the second thing I've ever posted to mastodon.
The only thing ChatGPT ever does.
@barrydeutsch.bsky.social on the remote chance that anyone needs another data point on this one, here's mine from a little while back: "Those Titles the AI Bot Thought I Had Written" https://nxdomain.no/~peter/those_titles_the_ai_bot_thougth_i_had_written.html
Celebrating 50 years of The Rocky Horror Picture Show
"It's had a profound impact on our culture, especially on people who've felt different and marginalized."
https://arstechnica.com/culture/2025/08/celebrating-50-years-of-the-rocky-horror-picture-show/?utm_brand=arstechnica&utm_social-type=owned&utm_source=mastodon&utm_medium=social
@arstechnica
This is good. But if ever able to see the tv version, the start is excellent and perfect. Sorry about the rest of the movie. Though Tim's appearance is a tearjerker.
The original still is and wil always be the best
@arstechnica Just a reminder that this movie was written, produced, directed, and starring boomers.
You're welcome.
@arstechnica @paul_ipv6 This was my core high school experience. I remember the first time a friend of mine yelled ”WITH A WHIP!” back at the screen. Can’t believe it’s been so long.
@arstechnica when people say "All these trans people now!"
I'm like, every straight Gen X guy I know can sing along to Sweet Transvestite.
Never really liked it, except for 'Sweet Transvestite'.
For me it's a matter of remembering that extraordinary performance by Tim Curry.
I'm glad Rocky Horror exists though.
@arstechnica 50 fricken years… I am struggling with the concept of this time frame as it relates to my personal history. Am I really that old?!?
@arstechnica It was so well workshopped and performed that by the time it hit the movies it was undeniable. You were compelled to figure out the world and appreciate it or not. Kind of like Peewee’s playhouse in that way.
@arstechnica my sister exposed me to it, when I was (maybe) ten years old.
Great piece of work and I still love it.
@arstechnica
Missed opportunity for click bait headline: Frank N. Furter confirmed as Disney princess with re-release anniversary edition.
Let's celebrate all the way, eh?
“See the intended message was, Fascism Sucks. However, they gave the good Zoids to the fascists so instead you got, If you want a T-Rex with big guns, you want fascism. And I feel like that explains a lot of our cohort.” — My sister being too smart for her own good.
LOL my daughter used the NATO phonetic alphabet on a phone call and the person asked if she was from a military family.
i was in the military but didn't learn it there.
learned it from a boss, tired of us changing server names every few days, and mandated the nato alphabet as hostnames. we got up to tango before i left.
Hahahaha what a lousy employer though
i have mixed feelings about it.
the problem was that it was a test lab and folks had hostnames in testcases and changing hostnames willy nilly kept breaking tests. since conformance testing was the whole purpose of the company, that was an issue.
his solution was indeed draconian but it did make that problem go away. and i learned the nato alphabet.
I would love it if people had the same level of "Wikipedia isn't always right, you know" skepticism about... literally all other sources, regardless of context.
It's so weird how for decades most people around me were like "whoa, gotta be careful, can't trust wikipedia" and now many of those same people are taking whatever AI cooks up hook, line, & sinker.
I'm beginning to think it was never about actual info quality or actual critical thinking.
It should be illegal to sell "half and half" that is mostly skim milk and corn syrup. I generally don't do the shopping b/c I always get the wrong thing, and yesterday I grabbed what looked like a regular half-n-half off the store shelf but when I woke up w/ today's coffeine found it tasted like ass. What is the point of low-fat half-n-half? Doesn't the name itself suggest it's at least half cream? What a scam.
@briankrebs Never seen low fat half-n-half in Canada lol That seems to go against the point of it loll 10% or nothing
@briankrebs my fiancée would cry you if you came home with that.
@emory yeah i'm still in the doghouse. on the bright side, I'm not allowed to do the shopping for a while.
@briankrebs @emory I can recommend getting in on the food shopping. it's much less of a chore once you get over the initial hump and start thinking like "ooh I fancy xyz for dinner this week", plus it ups your cooking game 'cos you're more aware of what's available. and makes life so much easier (and happier) when one of you is sick or busy 'cos you can rely on each other to be able to handle groceries. I ended up the main shopper in our house 'cos I love cooking and I rarely find it a chore now
@briankrebs i used to buy the wrong thing a lot as well and I just had to put in the reps and do it wrong enough I eventually got it right!
@briankrebs weak labelling laws in your area? That makes all processed food untrustworthy, making shopping a time-health balancing challenge. 🙁
@briankrebs American's leverage of ambiguity never ceases to amaze me. Their defense is probably "we never said what the other half was supposed to be, it's your problem if you assumed"
@briankrebs The "fat-free" label is prominent, while the presence of corn syrup and other additives are less noticeable so it's not even necessarily Healthier 😆 🤷🏼
I mean, look at this crap:
@briankrebs ... there is something deeply, DEEPLY wrong with us as a society when we put corn syrup in creamer.
(I mean, I think adding creamer is wrong. But that's a whole other thing.)
@rootwyrm @briankrebs I’d say we went off when we started regularly drinking something so bitter we needed to add milk and sugar to it just to get it down.
@passwordsarehard4 @rootwyrm i stopped putting sugar in my coffeine years ago. but i do need proper cream.
@briankrebs Did they literally call that "half and half" or did they call it "creamer" or something else?
@meganL yes it says half and half in big letters and light in much smaller letters
@briankrebs Man, there's no way they should legally be able to get away with that. I wonder if that's a recent development or has been going on for a while...
@briankrebs the search to ever increase margins has only made things worse.
Same thing happens to me when I buy something "no sugar added" and don't look close enough and they have added stevia or something.
@briankrebs Holy Hell. I reeeeally hope l no company in Germany tries to sell this here. That’s disgusting.
@briankrebs I don't understand why in the US people have such an issue with fat, but then sugars are tripled or quadrupled, which is way worse ...
@briankrebs Make your own; in the worst case, it would become dulce de leche(if you add sugar), which still is a win 🤷. When I look at the ingredients, I feel the artificially side of the force getting stronger xD
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@briankrebs they're removing a lot of components from the dairy that give it sweet flavor and body
passed their lab taste tests and sample surveys
end result is garbage for many
@briankrebs How is "color added" the *only* "Ingredient not found in regular half and half" ? (And why is color needed in a white product anyways?)
@briankrebs Always read the list of ingredients.
Fat-free products typically are spiked with some form of sugar to compensate for the absence of the mouth feel and taste that are the reason they appeal to people
@briankrebs Man, my whole life I assumed this is exactly what it was, and then my wife came home with one that was half cream and half whole milk
@briankrebs This is not creamer?
Creamer is, generally, sweetened. My Kroger store brand half-and-half only lists milk and cream.
I would expect "low fat" half-and-half to have a lower amount of cream, since that will be a higher source of fat. But, fun fact, fat helps blunt glucose spikes, so I avoid "low fat".
Granted, there's a lot of milk products that are sweetened to make them more palatable, especially to kids. It's among the things I was warned about by my doc upon diabetes diagnosis.
@briankrebs carrageenan is the devil. It is in far too many things... very interesting they didn't put the ** on that, too...
https://www.healthline.com/health/food-nutrition/carrageenan
@briankrebs my husband does the grocery shopping, does not use half and half, and bought that for me once. I told him to read the ingredients and he wordlessly dropped the entire container unopened into the trash.
@briankrebs Move to Canada... Or Europe or anywhere... This seems like another U.S. only problem AFAICT. Neat though, I didn't even know someone would put corn syrup in a milk product like that! Horrible.
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Milk doesn't need carrageenan! I mean, no food does, but milk shouldn't have a thickener in it!
@briankrebs OK, but the fact there aren't 2 stars beside the corn syrup tells another QUITE ALARMING story, no?
@Iwillyeah yes it's gross. which is why i'm bitter drinking bitter coffeine rn.
@briankrebs we don't have half and half here. Is it well known that it generally contains corn syrup?
@briankrebs now do yogurt.
If the ingredients are anything other than milk, lactobacillus and possibly fruit it's just an abomination with the label yogurt slapped on it.
@briankrebs I had to look this up. It's ridiculous how they present it on the packaging!
https://www.landolakes.com/products/whipping-cream-and-half-half/fat-free-half-half/
@briankrebs LAND O FAKES
Gotta be suspicious of anything "low-fat", because *something *is replacing that fat, and usually it's some kinda sugar or other junk you also don't want.
@briankrebs Brit here. This entire thread is baffling to me. I've double-checked both containers of milk in the fridge, just to be sure, and can tell you there is no "ingredients" list on either of them, because they only contain one ingredient: milk. That's it.
It's repulsive to most Europeans how you have to put sugar/sweetener and pointless other ingredients in everything. Here if you want extra creamy, there's Gold Top milk from Jersey cows.
Nothing else in it. The cows made it creamy!
@briankrebs The dairy lobbyists should be focusing on that sort of trickery rather than trying to ban the names "soy milk" and "almond milk", which no one is misled by.
@briankrebs same with "cheese" products that are mostly whey instead of cheese.
I've been having the occasional Kraft Dinner (I have a toddler) and it's been so hard on my stomach, but one of the top ingredients in the "cheese sauce" is whey (also known as the part of milk that doesn't go into cheese and has more lactose). I'm not lactose intolerant, but whey doesn't agree with me at all.
@briankrebs I know I shouldn't laugh, but I can't help it. I'm sorry you grabbed the wrong thing. It's incredible to me that anyone would create or consume "low fat half and half".
Half and half is cream and milk. It's fatty. Durrrrr. 🤣🤪
Corn syrup is in fact fat free.
And nasty.
@briankrebs years ago, I was home visiting my parents and added some salt to my dinner at the table. Something was off - enough that I asked what was in the shaker. My mom showed me the parent container. It was “low sodium” salt, and a primary ingredient was silicon dioxide. So basically it was a shaker half full of fine sand :/
@briankrebs Germany does a lot of anti-adulteration laws. They are very strict about ingredients in beer, and if you look at a real german beer stein they always have a 1 liter fill line so you won't be shortchanged.
@briankrebs Half and Half is some weird American thing, I've never understood what it was meant to be and now understand less.
@briankrebs Half and half does not specify what the halves are. This one is obviously half milk and half corn syrup.
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I've been to many diners over the years. From looking at the containers left out on the table I've discovered that "half and half" usually contains three ingredients, sometimes has five, and rarely can be found with four ingredients.
So really you could be drinking "half and half and half and half and half".
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You're probably aware but US laws about labeling food are chock full of stuff like this.
"Pure" vanilla extract must contain a minimum alcohol % ... and so on.
@briankrebs funny that this country is full of those radical people—now even in the government—that oppose regulation with all their strength, to then not realise that the result may as well be, and usually is, them being scammed—like ending up eating corn syrup on everything
@briankrebs On my first trip to the USA I thought half-n-half was a combination of skim milk and regular milk, the two milks that I knew about.
@briankrebs the best part is that even if you ignore the dubious ingredients, it’s probably making people _less_ healthy because it’s less satisfying. There’s been some interesting research explaining why diet foods not only don’t work but often have the opposite effect:
@briankrebs amazing how the most abundant country in the world has some of the worst food.
As a Brit visiting a US for work it took me a few trips to figure out how to make decent tea in the office, and even then I brought the actual tea from home.
I never did figure out what "coffee creamer" is ... some weird white powder with no relation to a cow.
@briankrebs I appreciate this may not be an option, but have you considered just having the coffee black?
@briankrebs I was going to say something like "just buy cream and add a bit less" then I checked the label on the "heavy whipping cream" in the fridge: it contains carrageenan. 🤦♂️
@briankrebs reading this post from the other side of pond is hilarious. I have no idea what you’re talking about. “Two countries separated by a common language”
there aren't many appropriate uses of doxxing, but finding and exposing the product manager that green lit that seems to vault right over the bar
@briankrebs My sources tell me Russia is behind this. This is why I only drink breast milk from Nepalese Sherpa women.
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Dude I have been thinking about this exact same bullshit. They have marketed that crap as "zero sugar".... But jokes on me, I actually have diabetes. It should be illegal to say "contains an inconsequential amount" of corn syrup when claiming 0 grams of added sugar.
Yesterday my daughter emailed me, asking why I didn't do something useful with my time.
Talking about "doing-something-useful" seems to be her favorite topic of conversation.
She was "only thinking of me," she said, and suggested that I go down to the Senior Center and hang out with some of the other old fellows.
So I did this and when I got home last night, I decided to play a prank on her. I emailed her and told her that I had joined a Parachute Club.
She replied, "Are you nuts? You are 71 and now you're going to start jumping out of airplanes?"
I told her that I even got a Membership Card and e-mailed a copy to her.
She immediately telephoned me and yelled, "Good grief, Dad, where are your glasses?! This is a Membership to a Prostitute Club, not a Parachute Club."
"Oh man, I'm in trouble again," I said. "I really don't know what to do. I signed up for five jumps a week!!"
The line went dead.
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For Quartering large bodies of armed troops among us
For cutting off our Trade with all parts of the world
For imposing Taxes on us without our Consent
For depriving us in many cases, of the benefits of Trial by Jury
For transporting us beyond Seas to be tried for pretended offences
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